There Should Be Something To Prevent This - Guild Wars Forums

Vinnitos Pazria · Jan 15, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

One of the officers in my guild kicked just about all my members out and then left the guild himself. Most of the people weren't inactive either, only 2 not being on for a week or less. It put a dagger in my guild be cause we went from over 30 members to maybe 15 now. There should be a way to prevent this from happening I say.

amish lifeguard · Jan 15, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Re-invite them.

*Darcy* · Jan 15, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

The only way to prevent it is to not create any officers.

Maria The Princess · Jan 15, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

or dont promote to officer those who are not trustworthy

Forbes · Jan 15, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

I know this won't stop it from happening, but what I do is take screen shots of the guild roster every so often in case of some event so I can re-invite people back if need be. Thankful this has never happened to our guild.

Billiard · Jan 15, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04

The guild status lists who was kicked as well - just depends how long the list of people is I guess.

Vinnitos Pazria · Jan 15, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

I know, just wish there was a way to assign powers to certain officers and what not. Kind of sucks too because I think it almost could have been prevented. The day it happened was the day I was about to knock him down ot a member too. I was going to re-order my officers and he wouldn't be one and I was going to demote everyone the night before, but I was too late.

Hell Raiser · Jan 16, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22

All you can do is be careful who you promote. You say you were about to demote him, emotion can run high in guild wars, especially in guilds, just don't hesitate to kick him or demote him if someone in the guild is insulting/arguing with him or he is doing/saying something that could offend someone in the guild, if he gets angry and does not have self-control I'm sure he wont hesitate to really hurt the guild.

Cow Tale · Jan 16, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

that sucks, find a way to hack his bank account and really make him sorry.

Stixxx · Jan 16, 2007, 10:35 AM // 10:35

That sucks, sad to hear how some ppl abuse their gained trust in them...

Tark Alkerk · Jan 16, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

there is nothing that anet can really do, you just have to be careful of of who you promote and who you invite into your guild.
jerks for the lose.

Vahn Roi · Jan 16, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09

There is no way to prevent the abuse of power in guilds. I myself was trolled by an officer in my guild in GC, and then kicked by the same officer for acknowledging it.

Acidic Won · Jan 16, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by Cow Tale

that sucks, find a way to hack his bank account and really make him sorry.

i dont think that is really in the heart of the game... try to reinvite them and watch who you promote really..

Vinnitos Pazria · Jan 16, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by Hell Raiser

All you can do is be careful who you promote. You say you were about to demote him, emotion can run high in guild wars, especially in guilds, just don't hesitate to kick him or demote him if someone in the guild is insulting/arguing with him or he is doing/saying something that could offend someone in the guild, if he gets angry and does not have self-control I'm sure he wont hesitate to really hurt the guild.

It wasn't that he was doing anything wrong (at the time). It was just that at the time he said not a word to anyone, not even a hi back. I want me officers to be friendly and help everyone, so if he can't even say hi, he doesn't deserve to be an officer. At the time he did nothing that desirved a kick which is why I didn't.

Kusandaa · Jan 17, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Maybe not a kick, but a demotion. I may be wrong, but I see that the person you promoted wasn't mature enough, or had something happening to him that led him to this (knowing the average player in the game, it's probably the first... O_o). When such things happen, try to talk to the officer, meet up with the others or people that are on a lot and see what they think about the situation. Can't hurt do do a little investigation at times. But in the end, it remains your decision. Just make sure your other officers won't make him an officer back if you demote him... but if he's the average player he'll just leave after.

Sofonisba · Jan 17, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Kusandaa

Maybe not a kick, but a demotion.
*snip*
Just make sure your other officers won't make him an officer back if you demote him... but if he's the average player he'll just leave after.

It's probably rather humiliating to be demoted from officer unless one requests to be demoted. He would have left if you did that. It's almost better just to /kick if you can't get the person to communicate with you.

But of course like others have said, do not promote anyone--ANYONE--who you would not trust in the leader's position. If anything happens and you do not log on for a certain amount of time, one of your officers will be auto-promoted to leader.

Our officers were promoted based on their nature and their strong character; not seniority, not their GW gold, not their PvP rank. And current officers must be unanimous in deciding to promote. And I trust them ALL implicitly.

Trust your instincts first and don't ever allow emotional pleas to be promoted sway you. When a guildie had expressed interest in being an officer, and I promoted someone else, he left angrily; I knew at that moment I'd made the right choice. Subsequent news (he's still in our alliance) has confirmed this, that that person was never going to be right for the position.

yarddog · Jan 18, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Our officers were promoted based on their nature and their strong character; not seniority, not their GW gold, not their PvP rank. And current officers must be unanimous in deciding to promote. And I trust them ALL implicitly.< said by Sofonisba

this is exactly the same attitude and stance i take in my guild in promoting officers. it couldnt have been put any other way. BTW, all my officers have surpassed at least one year in their current position.

Kuldebar Valiturus · Jan 19, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

There's no feasible way to prevent this kind of thing without causing other limitations that could also be detrimental to a guild.

Also, I see way too many guilds hand out officer positions as recruiting incentives, so that would be one thing to avoid, lol.

But, obviously, the answer is to only make officers of tried and true players

Rodhin Kinning · Jan 24, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by Sofonisba

It's probably rather humiliating to be demoted from officer unless one requests to be demoted. He would have left if you did that. It's almost better just to /kick if you can't get the person to communicate with you.

But of course like others have said, do not promote anyone--ANYONE--who you would not trust in the leader's position. If anything happens and you do not log on for a certain amount of time, one of your officers will be auto-promoted to leader.

Our officers were promoted based on their nature and their strong character; not seniority, not their GW gold, not their PvP rank. And current officers must be unanimous in deciding to promote. And I trust them ALL implicitly.

Trust your instincts first and don't ever allow emotional pleas to be promoted sway you. When a guildie had expressed interest in being an officer, and I promoted someone else, he left angrily; I knew at that moment I'd made the right choice. Subsequent news (he's still in our alliance) has confirmed this, that that person was never going to be right for the position.

This would have been my answer in one form or another. Use this advice and you shouldnt go wrong.

cellardweller · Jan 25, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Everyone in my guild is an officer - I'm the only one that can kick. Problem solved.

Jan 15, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51	#1
Vinnitos Pazria Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: White Chrysanthemums Profession: R/Mo	There Should Be Something To Prevent This One of the officers in my guild kicked just about all my members out and then left the guild himself. Most of the people weren't inactive either, only 2 not being on for a week or less. It put a dagger in my guild be cause we went from over 30 members to maybe 15 now. There should be a way to prevent this from happening I say.

Jan 15, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#2
amish lifeguard Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]	Re-invite them.

Jan 15, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39	#3
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	The only way to prevent it is to not create any officers.

Jan 15, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29	#4
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	or dont promote to officer those who are not trustworthy

Jan 15, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37	#5
Forbes Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast Guild: Boston Guild Profession: Mo/Me	I know this won't stop it from happening, but what I do is take screen shots of the guild roster every so often in case of some event so I can re-invite people back if need be. Thankful this has never happened to our guild.

Jan 15, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04	#6
Billiard Doctor of Philosophy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Guild: Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us	The guild status lists who was kicked as well - just depends how long the list of people is I guess.

Jan 15, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#7
Vinnitos Pazria Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: White Chrysanthemums Profession: R/Mo	I know, just wish there was a way to assign powers to certain officers and what not. Kind of sucks too because I think it almost could have been prevented. The day it happened was the day I was about to knock him down ot a member too. I was going to re-order my officers and he wouldn't be one and I was going to demote everyone the night before, but I was too late.

Jan 16, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22	#8
Hell Raiser Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: [PHNX] Profession: Mo/	All you can do is be careful who you promote. You say you were about to demote him, emotion can run high in guild wars, especially in guilds, just don't hesitate to kick him or demote him if someone in the guild is insulting/arguing with him or he is doing/saying something that could offend someone in the guild, if he gets angry and does not have self-control I'm sure he wont hesitate to really hurt the guild.

Jan 16, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23	#9
Cow Tale Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ocean Shores, Washington Guild: Last Sun Rise Profession: W/Mo	that sucks, find a way to hack his bank account and really make him sorry.

Jan 16, 2007, 10:35 AM // 10:35	#10
Stixxx Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium	That sucks, sad to hear how some ppl abuse their gained trust in them...

Jan 16, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29	#11
Tark Alkerk Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a Black Hole Guild: less Profession: E/	there is nothing that anet can really do, you just have to be careful of of who you promote and who you invite into your guild. jerks for the lose.

Jan 16, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09	#12
Vahn Roi Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: [HiDE]	There is no way to prevent the abuse of power in guilds. I myself was trolled by an officer in my guild in GC, and then kicked by the same officer for acknowledging it.

Jan 17, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50	#15
Kusandaa Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/Mo	Maybe not a kick, but a demotion. I may be wrong, but I see that the person you promoted wasn't mature enough, or had something happening to him that led him to this (knowing the average player in the game, it's probably the first... O_o). When such things happen, try to talk to the officer, meet up with the others or people that are on a lot and see what they think about the situation. Can't hurt do do a little investigation at times. But in the end, it remains your decision. Just make sure your other officers won't make him an officer back if you demote him... but if he's the average player he'll just leave after.

Jan 18, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20	#17
yarddog Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philadelphia-Go Eagles Guild: Raptor Five [Five] Profession: W/	Our officers were promoted based on their nature and their strong character; not seniority, not their GW gold, not their PvP rank. And current officers must be unanimous in deciding to promote. And I trust them ALL implicitly.< said by Sofonisba this is exactly the same attitude and stance i take in my guild in promoting officers. it couldnt have been put any other way. BTW, all my officers have surpassed at least one year in their current position.

Jan 19, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#18
Kuldebar Valiturus Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Garden City, Idaho Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR) Profession: R/	There's no feasible way to prevent this kind of thing without causing other limitations that could also be detrimental to a guild. Also, I see way too many guilds hand out officer positions as recruiting incentives, so that would be one thing to avoid, lol. But, obviously, the answer is to only make officers of tried and true players

Jan 25, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20	#20
cellardweller Likes naked dance offs Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: The Older Gamers [TOG]	Everyone in my guild is an officer - I'm the only one that can kick. Problem solved.